Why Toshi is better than other singers

Date: October 31, 2007  Category: Main

If you are a commentator on my site, name ‘Zaki’ should sound very familiar. Zaki is a music lover, based in Dubai, and he is a BIG fan of Toshi and regular commentator on the site. Shweta asked him why he thinks Toshi is a good singer and here’s his response.

I have a logical and musical explanation for why he is better than any bollywood singer of anytime.

Now I am only restricting myself to singing ability, not the “abhinay ang” or ability to suit any actor. Like for instance.. Shaan’s voice suits Saif Khan to the T. Udit Narayan’s voice suited Aamir Khan to the T. Kishore Kumar’s voice suited Amitabh Bacchan more than his own voice!

I am not talking of that… I am talking pure singing ability.

Let us first take the understanding of taalkaari (beats in Anglo speak). In many of his songs Toshi has deliberatly missed a beat (or a complete cycle) and adjusted to come back and hit the “sum” (the first beat in the cycle.

Alka Yagnick, Adesh Srivastav acknowldge this when it happens, Parveen Sultana applauded it when he did it in the wild card round. So did Jagjit Singh when Toshi sang Teri Deewani.

However none of the judges took the trouble of explaining this to the audiences. Here I am disappointd with Abhijeet.

There are many singers who struggle to sing with the beat in sync. Toshi has such mastery over beats that he misses a beat deliberately! He literally plays with the TAAL. It takes years and years of HARDCORE TRAINING to do this.

I have not heard any Bollywood singer do this. Even Ustads and Pandits struggle with this. This is an ultimate tribute to understanding of Taal!
And Toshi is a past master at it.

Coming to taans and alaaps and harkatein.

Listen to Silli Silli aundhi yeh hawa. And the harkat Toshi has taken with Hawaaa… aaa… aaa. This takes tremendous control and again years and years of training. He has done this better than Hans Raj Hans the original singer. Dont take my word for it.. listen to both versions.. they are on this site!

Now listen to Allahu.. Toshi’s version on this site.. The alaap.. the first musical notes he utters (aaaaaa….aaaa)… ask for a Hindustani music teacher’s opinion on this.. can u get such a clean, clear, precise alaap. Yes, but not from any Bollywood singer!

Sargam.. again the only one in my humble opinion of the “filmi singers” who could do this was Manna Dey. Dont get me wrong please, I have almost all of Manna Deys recordings including his private mehfil cassettes, I am a huge fan of Manna Dey. But in Sargam’s he does not even come close to Toshi.

Pain and passion are relative and subjective, so I wont go there.

But none of the “regular bollywood” singers can push their voice to the limit as Toshi does!

For these reasons Toshi is beter than the run of the mill bollywood singers.

And Abhijeet said it different words…
Toshi I cant judge you.. I am not equipped to judge you.. you are made for a far far bigger platform than SVOI.

Abhijeet, Jagjit Singh, Khayyam, Parveen Sultana, Kalyanji Bhai, Ravindra Jain.. cant be all wrong can they?

Sorry for the long post.. but u asked for it!

Cheers matey,
Zaki

Now I am no music expert myself, but Zaki’s points make sense. If you are a music expert and disagree with Zaki’s point of view, I welcome you to post your own thoughts.

One thing I liked about Toshi’s Teri Deewani performance was his improvisation to the song. Go see that performance, at around 3.15 seconds, Toshi says ‘Ho Ri ha Ri’ (is it what you call a ‘harkat’, Zaki?) and Alka’s expression tells us that she liked that harkat (and I loved it!). Also, the alaap(?) at the end of the ‘Teri Deewani’ song was also well placed and well sung. I don’t think you can improvise a song if you don’t understand the intricate details of music. I have listened to ‘Teri Deewani’ by Toshi thousand of times and every time it sounds better and better. Only if I can get in touch with Kailash Kher, and ask him what he thought of Toshi’s rendition of the song!

Your Host - J.

Comments

196 Responses to “Why Toshi is better than other singers”

  1. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 1:14 pm

    J,

    First to comment again….:P yeppieeeeeeeeeee :D
    Thanks once again for taking the time to do this for us. I greatly appreciate this.

    “Teri Deewani” and ” Main jahan rahoon” are two of my fav toshi’s performances. I do feel his rendition of Teri Deewani may be better than the original version. But I do not agree that he is BEST SINGER E-V-E-R IN THE HISTORY OF HINDI Cinema! hehe! I feel we havent even heard him enough to make such a blanket comment that he is the best ever! :P

  2. nagesh on October 31st, 2007 1:43 pm

    as of current day singers i put him
    1.sonu nigam
    2.udit narayan
    3. Toshi Sabri

    im probably forgetting some other big name singers but im sorry..he is just too good

  3. TNB on October 31st, 2007 1:45 pm

    Mr.Zaki,

    Those are some very bold statements your making. Just because you’ve over-heard some of manna day’s recording and are a pro at throwing around some very basic musical jargon does not in any way give u the expertise or the credibility to make such comments. the fact that you haven’t yet heard anyone else improvising with taal does not mean they’re not master enough - maybe they just dont wish to do so.

    I too am a admirer of Toshi. and maybe toshi IS the greatest singer there has ever been - but that’s just in your head - its all about perspective !

  4. Zaki on October 31st, 2007 2:00 pm

    TNB,

    No Toshi is not the greatest singer there has been. Even in my own head.. he is ranked third.. behind..

    1: The Late Pandit Kumar Gandharva;

    2: Beghum Abida Parveen.

    But he is certainly far ahead of any “regular film singer” I have heard.

    No I am not a pro at anything except my profession.. which does not happen to be music!

    So I am not throwing any professional jargon.

    Yes I certainly dont hide the fact that I am highly oipnionated and bold about my opinions.

    That is why I like a bold singer like Toshi…

    You have the talent, the harkatein, the taalkari, the sargams … show it.. dont hide it!

    A culture that does not have bold artistes is doomed …

    And when you have someone like Toshi who takes the orthodoxy born of thoursands of years of musical tradition and presents it in unique style that appeals to the masses.. we are on to something very very special.

    The way Toshi takes his audience on a “musical journey” when he performs (sings is a bit limiting to describe Toshi)- I find it very unique.

    I would love to know who your most favourite singers are?

    Cheers
    Zaki

  5. rossi on October 31st, 2007 2:11 pm

    MR.TBB
    Do u think that singers in india r hiding themselves…if a singer exist who can give those expressions better than Manna Day or the new guy TOSHI then where r they?…i’ve heard sonu nigham when he was in his tender age and was perticipating in such competitins…he wasnt even as good as TOSHI in those days….do u wnat to say that all the singers singing in the indian industry r not the best from india?

    I think Zaki has admitted that compare to all the singers we all have heard in this indian industry.

    I dont disagree with Zaki…but I can add some other points why Toshi is a better singer…not feeling to discuss it right now.

    TAKE CARE

  6. jenny on October 31st, 2007 2:22 pm

    hey guys cool man toshi will make a big bang in this industry soon JUST LIKE RAJA HASAN MAN THAT GUY SIS ROCKING. So i think toshi will do the same and same for irfan and also abhas ishmeet.

    Some how i am not that confident with harshit just like ANEEK from sgrmp .

    Aneek won but not peoples heart
    raja lost but won peoples heart and he is making a big come back in singing industry.

    So for me harshit i don’t know but if he wins than good luck.

    U KNOW WE ARE ARE ARGUING BUT THATS THEIR AMBITION OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BECOME SO LETS BE POSITIVE AND CHEERS

    JENNY

  7. Harold on October 31st, 2007 2:23 pm

    I think I have heard it all now. …Best singer ever? Give me a break. Toshi does have skills that must be recognized. But these type of comments are totally ludicrous - no matter what kind of expert you claim you are.

    People, these extremist views make interesting topics for forums such as this, but sometimes they make the writer look silly.

  8. Zaki on October 31st, 2007 2:40 pm

    Dear TNB,

    I am no pro and no expert at anything. I am just a lazy, opinionated straight-talking Ozzie who loves sitting on his bum and listening to music and playing music.

    Maroon me on an island by myeslf and the only thing I will ask for is a harmonium!

    I fully agree it is a matter of perspective..

    Talent hunt shows where they rank singers? How can you rank singers. How can Toshi’s Teri Deewani be better than Irfan’s Tadap Tadap. They are not even singing the same song.

    The whole conept of finding one best voice is ridiculous.

    Yes in my own head Toshi is “better than the regular bollywood singers”. No he is not the best singer there was/is in my own head either. In my own head he is third…

    1: Pandit Kumar Gandharva;

    2: Beghum Abida Parveen;

    3: Toshi Sabri

    The fact that someone like Toshi has the power to make a very very ordinary person like me publicy post such bold statements tells you something about the power of music!

    And finally to end on a poetic note….

    The bond between a singer and his audience is special .. like that of a flower and the breeze..

    Gul ko chahiye ke phailaye khushboo charon aur
    Mumkin nahi magar hawaaonse rishta kiye baghair.

    A flower wishes to spread its fragrance far and wide..
    It is only the blowing breeze that makes it happen.. (a very poor translation I know!)

    Enjoy your music folks.

    Now that J has confirmed the elimination of Toshi.. you can expect some dispassionate and toned down comments from yours truly.

    Cheers
    Zaki

  9. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 2:52 pm

    Harold..I agree Buddy…Totally!;)

  10. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 2:53 pm

    Hi Jenny, :) How r ya today?

  11. Zaki on October 31st, 2007 3:03 pm

    Dear J,

    You are doing a great job mate…other than posting my words right upfront! :)

    A BIG fan is a paradix isnt it?

    Toshi.. I am so happy to meet you.. I am a BIG fan of yours.

    Sounds funny mate..

    Toshi I love your singing .. you are a WOW singer man… is more like it!

    BTW J, I am ur fan too… ur doing a great job with this site

    Cheers mate,
    Zaki

  12. rohan on October 31st, 2007 3:03 pm

    surooo ki madhoshi wahi toshiiii hi harold plz give us a break u don,t know waht is toshi u r not grater than abhijeet ok he said i don,t have a equipement to jude u u r beyong the judement so my dear friend listen his song and u will also belive in his singing his harket , sur , taan he is just the best i don,t have a words to express toshi u know woh is usdat nusrat fathe ali khan toshi will complete nusrat saab composition that is the big big honour of toshi in the little age one day will come u will see toshi will be the greatest singer in the indian history other thing no ishmeet no abbhas no harshit no body can reach toshi level sur taan surgam i,m waiting for his album the merge of ustad nusrat fatae ali khan and mohammad toshi sabri actually toshi,s target is not voice of india his target is poples woh loves him allot his stlye his singing what ever he is voted out from voi but he won the heart of millons that is the real victore of toshi, persnoly i,m very funny guy but toshi he is the killer singer when i was listen his song chitteye main jaha rahoo and saiya i can,t stop my tears that is the power of toshi,s singing our blessing with u toshii

  13. Raj on October 31st, 2007 3:09 pm

    dose toshi is better then sukhwinder…..come on people…..as you all guys say better then all the singer in bollywood….please answer and keep this kind of comments with you all…toshi is a good singer…but limitation alwyas there….

  14. jenny on October 31st, 2007 3:11 pm

    hi shweta how are yah ? i am kool i wasn’t in for 2 days and i saw a lot of hungama lolll

    How is it going dear ?

    Well i am feeling sleepy at work so much

    Tnx
    Jenny

  15. J on October 31st, 2007 3:16 pm

    Zaki,

    I hope you don’t mind that I copied your comment on the frontpage, I thought it was very articulate and I like arguments with substance not a plain blanket statement like ‘Toshi Rocks’ or ‘Toshi Sucks’. You have to back it up.

    Your Host - J.

  16. Zaki on October 31st, 2007 3:20 pm

    Dear J,

    It is alrite mate.Atleast I stirred up some interest! :)

    Who is/has been your favourite singer in SVOI?

    Keep up the good work.

    Cheers
    Zaki

  17. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 3:21 pm

    Hey Jenny,

    Lol…yea…:) Lots of hungama going on in here ;)

    Well, I just quit my job so am home, chilling! Waiting for my Sis to come online fm India :)
    Hope you hve a good day dear. And I know. it does get very tiring at work after lunch! hehe! You shouldnt have eaten too much! ;)
    Take care Sweets,
    Shweta

  18. Masoud Safi on October 31st, 2007 3:29 pm

    Mr. Zaki, I certainly appreciate your comments on whether or not Toshi is the god father of Indian music industry, but quite frankly would suggest to you that could you please keep those thoughts with your self and fantasize your dreams with them please. If toshi was asked about what some of us are reffering to him as , I am sure he will described it other wise. so Please do not harm Toshi’s immage any more. Toshi is a good singer , there is no doudt, but he does not have the voice to touch people’s heart, does he, lets compare him with Abhaas,Harshit, or Ishmeet. As a ordinary citizen I do not care if they do not do the ( sara, sara,gama gama pa)or whatever,in between their singing,nor I care about if they are not top classical or qawals, what we care is their voice quality and abilty to sing the types of songs that can touch our emotions and make us enjoy those moments while we listen to them.Toshi just does not have that voice.. I mean every one has the right to say that Toshi is number one to them, however you just can not give him the legendary position and compare him with other legendary singers in indian music history.

    Lastly ,time will tell whether in fact Toshi had the ability to reach the position we are dreaming for him. for now, I think we should support Abhaas, Ishmeet, and Harshit for their best singing abilities. and lets enjoy the music..

  19. Masoud Safi on October 31st, 2007 3:32 pm

    Hi shweta, how are you doing??

  20. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 3:41 pm

    Well said Vijay……:D

    vijay on October 31st, 2007 1:47 pm
    “The best singer on the show has gone last week itself….yess I m talking abt IRFAN….Much for Zaki’s comments abt Toshi…who gives a damn abt him …..As he himself agrees Bollywood singers are nt equipped enough to sing what toshi sings….So it means to be a Bollywood singer you don’t have to be like Toshi ..This deduction is solely from Zaki’s comments…”

    Am Good Masoud Safi..how r ya today? Just enjoying people’s comments here! ;)

  21. jenny on October 31st, 2007 3:56 pm

    shweta, u are home already wow thats good i still have 2hrs to go. Your sis coming from india thats nice u must be looking forward to it.

    My colleague Aditya he just left for india on monday to get married man he went after 4yrs and he was so xcited.

    I really want to tour india oneday god willingly.

    Shweta u have facebook

    If so let me know and enjoy your rest of the day.

    tnx
    Jenny

  22. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 4:05 pm

    Hey I dont have facebook, but I have Orkut….Do U have one?
    Wow..where in India is Aditya getting married?
    Miss home alot yaa sometimes..But what to do! Paapi pet ka sawaal hai! ;) haha!
    Come to India when I am thr….:P wdnt that be fun! :)

  23. Sheba on October 31st, 2007 4:14 pm

    Zaki,
    Very well articulated. I must say that Toshi has managed to rekindle my interest in music that I had lost over the years. People are entitled to their opinions but it is interesting to see how people like Mr. Safi are offended by your praise for Toshi. Why?
    He may not win the show and the big music contacted but I will be waiting with bated breath for his first song or album. He’s a fabulous performer as well. Would love to see him live on stage.

  24. sman on October 31st, 2007 4:33 pm

    I am Very Very happy to get to know that Mr.Toshi Qawali or Mr.Toshi Sufi is out from VOI. —- How can you sing every song like a Qawali and How can you cry before India that you don’t want to go back into dirtyness from where you came… You have lot of Desire - to lead a rich life , is it ? Ahaaaaaaaa …. Did you thought Life is so easy that people will feel on your poverty ? Never , If it would have been there would have been no poverty in India.

    In last show you told you want a car …. What a greediness you have.

    Idiot - You are out .. I am very Happy for it.

  25. rohan on October 31st, 2007 4:41 pm

    plz saman if u don,t like toshi plz don,t commant here if u like other contestant go and commant there plz its ur thinking is totally roung he sung all song like a qawali its means u have no knowleg about music u r not grather than juges ok minded and u have no emotion also ok i,m very happy he is voted out plz forget ur jelices u know very well toshi is the best but u can,t accept accept the true

  26. nagesh on October 31st, 2007 4:53 pm

    I was wondering…do you all think Toshi is better than Sonu Nigam?

  27. jenny on October 31st, 2007 5:21 pm

    shweta no i don’t have orkut. Aditya my freind is getting married in chandigarh. man u shoul dhave seen him he was so happy i reall y miss my home too i will go soon i am sure next year if god will let me

    yes i would luv to tour india i mean the whole india i just have that dream let me know when u go ?

    jinny

  28. jenny on October 31st, 2007 5:23 pm

    shweta i don’t have orkut .
    adit has gone to chandigarh he was so happy man after 4 yrs u know what i mean the feelin gof going home. I really wnat to go my back home to and god willingly i will go next year.

    Let me know when u go to india ?
    I will join seriously i want to see the whole india its my dream.

    Tnx
    Jenny

  29. TNB on October 31st, 2007 6:33 pm

    thanks for the “top 3″ listings Zaki..let me see if i could get that published in the Times.

    u said :
    “The fact that someone like Toshi has the power to make a very very ordinary person like me publicy post such bold statements tells you something about the power of music!”

    power of music ?? that only goes to show one thing sir, you are suffereing from a syndrome called “toshi-mania”..

    he def is a powerful singer, and u never know..he might make a big name for himself in the comming days, and personally i’d love to see that too. Sad, we wont be seeing him anymore on stage :(

  30. Shweta on October 31st, 2007 6:49 pm

    :P TNB ;)

  31. musiclover on October 31st, 2007 7:03 pm

    I read the post and Zaki’s appraisals and I’d like to add my thoughts. I’m very passionate about music. I listen to a wide variety of music and play a couple of instruments. And my passion reflects in my following this show and posting this comment (going to be a long one).

    If I were a judge, there’d be three parameters I’d evaluate a singer on - voice, skill and emotion.

    Voice is something that is genetic and there is nothing you can do about it. But the singer has to be evaluated on this because the listening audience wants to hear a voice that they like. If you’re born with a bad voice, what can you do about it - nothing.

    The next parameter is skill - Pitch and volume control, sense of rhythm, expressiveness (soft, loud, accent, etc.), pronunciation and improvisation are the most important aspects of skill. Skill can be gained by training and practice. Even the most naturally gifted artists have to undergo training to gain these skills.

    The last parameter is emotion. This is subjective to the listener. But by deeming it subjective, one cannot dismiss it lightly. It happens so that, we being humans, have a fairly common perception of emotion. Of course there are exceptions, but the majority of listeners agreeing is so large that you have to cater to it. Emotion is hard to define in terms of singing. It is what makes you feel sad when you listen to a singer singing a sad song. How the singer puts the sadness into it, is another matter altogether.

    With this evaluation in mind, here are my thoughts on the current contestants:

    Harshit
    =======
    Voice: Very good, suits most genres of singing.
    Skill: Good, but can be improved. His pronunciation and expression leave a bit to be desired. In one of his songs, he pronounces “love” as “laaav”. That’s not gonna cut it. And he seems to sing with a perennial unhappy expression (various shades of unhappy though). He needs to get these things right.
    Emotion: Very good - I don’t see anything missing here.

    Ishmeet
    =======
    Voice: Very good
    Skill: Ishmeet has a habit of singing “just under” the music. He lets music do the talking. It’d be a good way to showcase somebody’s music, but this is a singing contest and he needs to rise above the music.
    Emotion: Same as above - he needs to put more emotion in everything he sings.

    Toshi
    =====
    Voice: Good, but not as good as the first two.
    Skill: Very good. I’ve only one complaint here - he overdoes his improvisations. He tries to (I think) show off his improvisational ability, but most of the times, they end up spoiling the underlying melody of the vocal line. He needs to watch it.
    Emotion: Quite good, no complaint here.

    Abhas
    =====
    Voice: Good, not as good as the first two, doesn’t suit all types of songs.
    Skill: Very good - only sometimes he gets the expression a little wrong.
    Emotion: Outstanding. He seems to extract the core pathos of the song and sing it with such intensity, it is amazing. His rendition of Satyam Shivam Sundaram was very moving.

    On a personal note, Abhas is my favorite. Amongst the four now, Ishmeet is the weakest. In the rest, each have their own drawback. Judging who’s the best depends on how much weight you want to attach to each judging parameter. I think though, that Abhas will get voted out as he doesn’t have popular support and I think Ishmeet (because of the popular support he enjoys) and Toshi will be the finalists with Toshi winning it.

  32. TNB on October 31st, 2007 7:40 pm

    Hey musiclover,

    great going ! nice post for a change..good to know there are some people who don’t listen to music with a deaf ear :) I’m all for abhaas..infact from the very first time he sang in the auditions. Consistency has been tremendous. Again like u said, I have a feeling he’s not going to make it..but i see that as a positive thing..how many that have won such a title (saregamapa, indian idol, fame gurukul etc etc) are on the main scene ?..i can hardly think of any, except abhijeet sawant who recently came up with a decent album. So, looking at the bright side, i rather not have him win but instead see him grow as an artist - slow and steady.

    P.S even though i’m a die hard fan when it comes to abhaas, i would have liked toshi to win for several reasons :S

  33. Masoud Safi on October 31st, 2007 7:43 pm

    Hay shweta sorry I could not reply soon enough , Just got home from school. I sure do enjoy comments here.lol,

    Dear Sheba. I am not offended by Zaki’s praise of toshi at all, but I am i am speaking on behalf of most of people in this blog that, they way you guys praise him is questionable and problematic. I mean he is being refferd to as legend of music, or better then any bollywood top singers …etc. this type of dilusional thoughts about a talent show contestant is not just right but unacceptable.

    TNB: lol my godness ,you have come up with a realy good diagnosis, I would add the word’dilusional Toshi Mania’…..lol

  34. Masoud Safi on October 31st, 2007 7:50 pm

    Cheers to Music lover, I think so far this is the best , unbaised, realistic, and to the point comment.Good on you music lover,I could not be more agree with you on most of your comments.

  35. Masoud Safi on October 31st, 2007 7:53 pm

    oh by the way musiclover, I guess you do not know yet that Toshi has been elimenated. It has been confirmed by many fans and as you can read through the yesterdays and todays comments, it ingnited the battle ground between many fans… thought may be let you know.

  36. musiclover on October 31st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Yeah, I just came to know about Toshi’s elimination. I was trying to avoid reading the main post about it as I like the suspense, but it bobbed up in some of the comments that I was going through after posting mine :-). Anyway…

  37. TNB on October 31st, 2007 8:38 pm

    ;) back shweta

  38. Rovino on October 31st, 2007 10:25 pm

    lots of guys are in saanne. Please forget about Toshi now . He is gone from this CONTEST. Forget about it. He will be OK. Lets get forward. Life is short.Hope you guys understand. Toshi’s fan Please chill.God bless You.

  39. Rovino on October 31st, 2007 10:28 pm

    Dear music Lover,
    I love your comments Dear

    Thanks

  40. Rovino on October 31st, 2007 10:38 pm

    Lets make your life live easy, please. Don’t get upset if some body is eliminated. Its LIFE. I admire all of you guys about your feelings. Who ever left , select what you think is better.

  41. Rovino on October 31st, 2007 10:54 pm

    Music lover,
    Are you from one of the judges.

  42. ritika on October 31st, 2007 11:31 pm

    Rovino sir
    Still telling Toshi fans to chill.Its hard to chill.Its hard to believe this and i am waiting for a miracle.

  43. MusicBuff on October 31st, 2007 11:40 pm

    @MusicLover,
    Although I am not a fan of Abhaas (I think he’s good), I completely agree with your analysis of these singers based on the three criteria.
    Some people just get carried away by the emotional drama and scripted comments made by judges and guests on the show.

  44. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 12:23 am

    I totaly agree with Rovino. Toshi fans,lets move on , I think we disscussed about him alot, more than enough. so lets control ourselves and let other poeple enjoy the remaining episodes.Toshi fans,question for you , whihc one of these three contestants you think would be your second choice? if any one can back up their comments with a rational reasons I would appreciate it.. just curoius to know.

    Regards

  45. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 12:31 am

    Dear Ritika. I can certianly undrestand your feelings about your favourite singer ,him being not in the show any more,but think about it positivly meaning, may be it is a starting point for whole lots of apportunities for him, just like Irfan. do not be upset this much because not knowingly it will effect your health nagatively. so,I hope my comments directly toyou does not offend you rather I hope it make you feel better.

    Regards

  46. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 12:52 am

    Dear Masoud,

    Of the remaining contestants, I think Abhas is probably the best.

    Whilst he is influenced by Mohd Rafi and ‘too filmi’ for my liking the guy has potential and charisma.

    However, in my opinion he needs to develop more depth and maturity in his singing- the guy is only 17. Come to think of it Toshi is only 20 (is this true?)!

    Having said this it is likely that he will now be eliminated!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  47. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 2:20 am

    Thanks Zaki for sharing, Yeah I do believe Abhaas is still very young, considering his age I think he doing excellent. He has a bright future I think.

    I am not sure how old Toshi is , do not qoute me on this, I think he seemed older than 20 years of age, let me take a guess, he probably is in his 24-25ish….. all right It is getting very late here , I guess it would be before noon in dubai, right, have a good day Mr. Zaki

  48. rossi on November 1st, 2007 3:16 am

    well, SAFI i dont really like the word fan…i can just tell u i love the singing of Toshi…i’m listening to this kinda shows from my childhood…and myself a passionate music lover…i’ve never seen a talent like TOSHI.

    @Music Lover…totally disagree with u about HARSHIT his voice doesnt suit all kind of songs…again there is a difference betweet the vboice u get by birth and the singing voice of the singer…singing voice comes from REWAZ.

    this is a competition where u show ur talent…so there is nothing wrong if Toshi shows his expertise…he was never musically wrong…i mean out of sur…thats the point.

    @SAFI…my second choice was always AVAAS…third was IRFAN/ABHILASHA….i just like the base of HARSHIT’s voice…but im afraid this guy doent know how to utilize it…he dont even use his own HARKATE…he just copy the harkate in the original song…it is very difficult for him to sing something tht he never heard…i donno why the judges r for him…may be his voice reminds them of the golden era of Kumar Sanu and sometimes K Kumar.

    TAKE CARE FRIENDS

  49. rossi on November 1st, 2007 3:19 am

    SAFI…TOSHI is only 20 yrs old…and thats true…if HARSHIT can be 22 then whats wrong with Toshi to be 20…HARSHIT seems older than TOSHI to me.

  50. poonam on November 1st, 2007 3:39 am

    I totally agree with Zaki’s view points on toshi.
    Voice of india was already decided by the judges and director before hand. They wanted harshit in top 3 and they achieved it through manipulation of votes. All of you must have seen in the previous episodes open partiality of the judges towards harhsit.I just saw a glimpse of tomorrow’s programme on ’star plus ‘, adhesh coming on stage and jumping over harshit and saying ,’this is the voice of india ‘and also jatin shouting with happiness. in this website all of you have your favourites with expert comments but if you judge rationally and with an open mind Toshi has given some memorable performances and referring to the main comment of Zaki ,he is indeed an extra-ordinary singer,not meant for bollywood. LUCK also plays an important part like in the case of ishmeet.Now,he has improved but initially there were better singers than him who got eliminated.
    Instead of criticizing and writing adverse comments on toshi and being happy that he is out,
    we should think positively and recollect some of his excellent performances. Zaki and musiclover comments are very well written and explained.

  51. Ali 007 on November 1st, 2007 8:44 am

    hi! this iz 2 zaki hey man luk i don’t disagree with u.u r 100% correct and i respect that.i luv toshi’z singin when he first sang ‘piya re’ when i luked at him i saw a singer .i’m not a musicion or any singer but i luv muzic and luv toshi’z singin .thanx

  52. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 9:29 am

    Rossi, Thanks. so lets get our fingers crossed for our favourite contestant and vote vote vote, if you want your singer to win… god bless all of you in this blog.

  53. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 9:41 am

    Note to all: What ZAKI describes in his GORGEOUS write-up is not an attempt to “throw” jargon. I have read 100s of ARTICLES on MUSIC. Very few of them, as I can now recognize, are born from GENUINE LOVE AND ABSORPTION in music.
    ZAKI’S ARTICLE IS BORN OF PURE, RESPLENDENT LOVE for music.
    A BIG APPLAUSE TO YOU ZAKI. I respect you for the precision with which you conveyed your view point. BRILLIANT. And Thank You, for the ENRICHING experience. Thank you so, so much.
    Incidentally, Begum Abeed Parveen is one of my ALL TIME favorite too. Her voice is surely made from matter that is above human, celestial to be precise.

  54. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 9:46 am

    My personal favorite in VOI, as all of you already know, is Irfan.

    I would be really interested in TNB and MUSIC LOVERS viewpoint on IRFAN. Could you please throw light on this?

    I know for a fact that SHWETA likes Irfan.

    PS: Zaki, with your permission, I wish to place the list of Irfan’s top ten on my website on Irfan along with the associated videos, because I cannot agree better with Irfan’s top 10.

  55. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 10:31 am

    Dear Shastri,

    I am a little busy, but will post my thoughts on Irfan in a little while.

    I must say one thing - Irfan is the most versatile singer I have seen in a long long time on any talent hunt show!

    If it was a fair SVOI - I think Irfan and Toshi would have made worthy finalists and got the best out of each other.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that if the judges had used a variety of criteria for final assessment, Irfan might have even pipped Toshi… but just!

    Cant wait for Irfan and Toshi’s first album. It tells you something about SVOI does it not? Irfan and Toshi eliminated- they both get are not recognised outside of SVOI and not on SVOI!

    Even Irfan’s harshest critic would have to admit that the judges on SVOI never gave him his due.

    Cheers
    Zaki

  56. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 10:42 am

    Sorry folks what I meant in the earlier post is..

    Irfan and Toshi’s talent is not recognised on SVOI by the judges (except Abhijeet) but outside SVOI they are on the way to becoming superstars..

    A big cheer to the famous music directors Pandit Bros and Aadesh Srivastav!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  57. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 12:07 pm

    Dear Zaki,

    Thanks for your thoughts! I am sure both of them will reach great pinnacles of success. Touchwood.

    Shastri

  58. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 12:10 pm

    Hey everyone: Would love to meet Irfan and tell him how much he means to me. Any clue how this can be done?
    SHAAN was here to perform for my company - Google, and I sent him some poetry for Irfan, but I doubt if it reached Irfan.
    Incidentally, wrote some short poetry in Hindi for Irfan, so Irfan fans, do read it! It is about a listeners experience of Irfan’s voice.

    voiceofheaven.blogspot.com

  59. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 12:11 pm

    Sorry, the blog address is voiceofheavens.blogspot.com

  60. Shastri on November 1st, 2007 12:11 pm

    लोग कहते हैं ज़िन्दगी वक़्त की मोहताज हैं
    सांसे दर्द से जुडी हैं
    वोह कहते हैं कुछ रुखसार यादें
    लम्हों के आईने सीचते हैं
    और उन यादें से कभी कभी
    एक ऐसी आवाज़ उभरती हैं
    जो धडकनों की गूँज
    और सांसो की आवाज़ बनती हैं
    जो रातों को शबनमी
    और दिनों को खुस्निसर बनती हैं
    पर वोह ये नहीं कहते
    जब ऐसी एक आवाज़
    ज़िन्दगी के दीवार पे लटके तस्वीरें
    को तिरछी कर दे
    और लम्हों के रंग बदल दे
    तो हम क्या करें?
    अब आप ही की आवाज़ हैं -
    जिसने ज़िन्दगी के चन मायने बदल डाले
    अब आप ही बताएं
    इरफान
    हम क्या करें…

  61. Sheba on November 1st, 2007 12:48 pm

    Hi Masood. I agree Toshi is not the best singer in the history of music and all that. But if we compare him to other contestants in music competitions, he is definitely in a league above the rest for his originality and as Zaki puts it -for being able to play with the sur and taal instead of just singin’ it straight. But I do understand you point now. I have always like unconventional singers, not necessarily singers with the most beautiful voices but those who sing with a lot of passion and are not forever trying to copy successful singers.
    I will miss Toshi.

  62. jaaji on November 1st, 2007 12:51 pm

    ishmeet gaandoo ko out hona chahye

  63. AM on November 1st, 2007 1:42 pm

    Zaki saahab,

    You have said everything I wanted to say about Toshi..Well, I won’t say he is in my Top 3 “ever” list now (Lata Mangeshkar ji and MS Subbalaxmi have moved me often by their singing abilities). but he is one singer whom everyone always wanted to listen - those who love his singing listen him for obvious reasons, those who don’t listen him just to prove a point.. :-)

    I have a very funny feeling..I see Toshi becoming a music composer because he plays with sur and taal in a way very few can do even after all the training in the world..

    He is a rare talent..I was very upset to see him go the first time..This time “I don’t give a damn!”..Meri ankhein rahi to dekh paaun us Sooraj ko dobaara..andhere mein to kala rang bhi pehchan na sakun..

    I am waiting to hear Toshi’s album which will definitely be full of laykaari, sargam and harkatein!

    “Teri deewani” hun “Piya re”.. “Tere bin nahi lagda dil mera” kyunki “Dil da maamala hai dilbar” !

  64. DB on November 1st, 2007 2:52 pm

    For those who are asking all of Toshi’s fan’s to move on…. and support the better of the three left in the show… than I’ll say:

    SORRY GUYS… the people who love Toshi do not maintain double standards and to choose the better out of the three left is completely out of the the question cos to me —– THE ONES LEFT ARE THE WORST… SO WHO CAN BE BETTER THAN THE WORST???

    None of your favs will get the incredibly huge support that Toshi had, has and will always have … we have better things to go in life than simply waste time on replicas of great singers.

    @musiclover

    You said emotions and they way they are put forward by the singers and how we perceive them are subjective - to me Abhas does not have an emotional feel. I find his voice ‘nasal’ and he tries to forcefully bring extra emotions that what is required. He is trained too but why does’nt he dare bring his improvisations? Cos he cannot play with musical notes as Toshi does, who has complete mastery over it. Was Sanjay Leela Bhansali, the great legends who came in the wild card entries, Alka Yagnik, Jatin Pandit, Abhijit all wrong when they gave the best of compliments to Toshi?

    Toshi could not only make me sad with his music, but also bring tears to my eyes and many others … he does not bring in great emotions, eh?

    You have forgotten one more parameter which is required in reality shows…. the ability to move the mass and gain great public support… Stage presence too matters in shows like this. I have performed (sing as well as dance) on stage innumerable times and I know what is meant by a true all round performer on stage. If Toshi does not have that extra edge in him, then why do you think millions of people love his singing style?

    Sorry, but I do not agree with anything you said in your post.

    Zaki… Cheers buddy!!! I completely agree with you!!!

  65. DB on November 1st, 2007 3:00 pm

    For those who says Toshi lovers suffer from some weird illness called ‘Toshi mania’, then what is wrong in that? We are daring and outspoken in whatever we say and do .. and we do not mind being maniacs too!!!

    Who has stopped you all from loving your favorite contestants the way we do? Or should I say that you all lack as much emotions as much as your fav’leftover’ contestants lack. hhehehehe.. We love being this way… so what’s your probs guys? no one is asking you all not to support your contestants, but you have no right to stop us from voicing our feeling too..

    So chill !!!!

  66. kalyani on November 1st, 2007 3:32 pm

    hello folks,
    i came across this site just by chance a couple of days ago.its a lovely site, thank u J, for maintaining it.
    i am not a die hard fan of any singer in svoi, tho toshi and irfan were excellent, and my third choice was abhaas, but after reading zakis comments abt toshi, i was really moved and liked toshi even more.now i wonder if i am bcoming a fan of toshi or zaki….lol.comments from DB, AS,shweta,jenny, music lover, etc were enjoyable.

    the comments in this site are good, and no one curses another person, unlike some others.

    may b i will post something later, there may not b much since svoi is almost over.
    cheers….happy blogging, and may the worst contestant win svoi…..as decided by gajendra singh.

  67. Amrit on November 1st, 2007 3:43 pm

    Thank god Toshi is outttttttttttttttttttttttt….don;t worry chill as you can but you guys see will coming 6 month ..you will forget toshi.i know very well you all stupid people…..hahahaaha..so keep comments and enjoy the system ..till you will find some thing ohter.. system to enjoy….toshi is not better then every singer..in bollywood…you can see..and give comments not problem.. because no body will care about yours comments…. ahahhahahaha ..poor people looking to enjoy..same on you alll///

  68. Amrit on November 1st, 2007 3:44 pm

    SO CHILLL HAHAHA…

  69. musiclover on November 1st, 2007 4:00 pm

    TNB, Masoud Safi, Rovino, MusicBuff: Thanks for your compliments guys!

    Rossi: I guess we disagree w.r.t. Harshit’s voice. Regarding Toshi’s improvisations - I never said he was out of “sur” (I don’t know much about Indian musical theory, but in terms of Western music, he does stay in the correct key). What I said was that he sometimes improvises so much, that power of the underlying melody is diminished. The only objective of a singer should be to present the most “melodious melody” possible, not the most complicated or the most awe-inspiring.

    Shashti: I’m going to disappoint you. I never liked Irfan’s voice. Mind you, this has got nothing to do with his skill or talent. It’s just his voice seems to have all shape and no body. No “dum”, you know. Again, this is completely personal and I’m sure there’ll be many (including you, obviously) to disagree with me. Sometimes it seemed like he was humming loudly rather than singing properly. But, to be fair, I don’t think he lacked in skill.

    DB: Improvising is not the most important ability in singing. It’s a good thing to be able to improvise to sing well, but not a requisite. I don’t hold it against singers if they don’t improvise.

  70. musiclover on November 1st, 2007 4:08 pm

    A comment on improvisations. It seems like many people are big fans of Toshi’s ability to “play” with the notes.

    If you’re a decent musician, it doesn’t take much to improvise musically. All you need is some theoretical knowledge of they key, it’s notes and some rules. Some naturally gifted musicians don’t even learn these techniques explicitly - it just comes to them.

    What I am trying to say is that being theoretically correct is different from being musically melodious. A perfectly correct set of notes will not be melodious just because it is theoretically correct. This is where science differs from art. It takes a particular sequence of notes to be melodious to the human ear. It is easy for a decent musician to play correct sets of notes on a guitar or a piano, but it is much much more difficult to create a melodious set of notes.

    Toshi was good at improvising, I agree - he seems to have the skill, but I’ve never felt that his improvisations enhanced the melody he was singing. And that to me, is what improvisation is all about.

  71. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 5:25 pm

    Hey DB,

    I was just wondering while reading you comment on all the support that Toshi has and how many people love him. I do agree. He is a very good singer but as I have always said, My personal fav has always been Abhaas. As for the rest of the contestants…I like them sometimes when they give us some good performances. Anyways, what I was wondering about was…If Toshi has soooooooo many fans…..and soooooooo many people who love him…..and are ready to “fight” for him…..How come he got eliminated??? Dont blame it on The producers or the judges because I feel they went out of their way to bring Toshi back in the show. In fact, I would have wondered if it was pre-decided that they wanted Toshi to win…because they all did alot for him. Even though I like Abhaas the best…I dont think Wild Card was fair to Irfaan and Abhilasha. Its just sad that when they went went out of their way to bring Toshi back in the show… noone said that they were partial “towards” Toshi…but when he gets eliminated people start acting like kids. I dont think Toshi has as many “followers” as you all think…otherwise he would have stayed in the show.

    @ Kalyani,
    Hey its a pleasure reading from you too Kalyani. Hope to see you more often in here! Its a good place to be! ;)

  72. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 5:27 pm

    I have also heard Toshi’s fan argieing that its not wrong to vote for Toshi 100’s of times when you can and you cannt call it fradulent!! Well, that means it fair when other contestants fans vote “fradulently” for them too. So you all cannot blame the voting system either for Toshi’s elimination.

    Find a better reason and better people to put the blame on! :P

  73. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 5:29 pm

    argueing*

  74. TNB on November 1st, 2007 5:41 pm

    DB ,

    u said this about abhaas : “why does’nt he dare bring his improvisations?”

    there’s one thing for certain, you aren’t deaf..or else u wouldn;t be writing an essay on toshi’s musical “mastery”. So i’d like to assume that you either haven’t heard abhaas sing, or you have a dozen kids making a hell lot of noise. FYI he’s improvised on most of his songs, and he’s a player when it comes to that. to such a extent that he was told by the judges that he over-does it sometimes and was asked to cut it down. And fidling with music isn’t the best thing to do all the time, especially when you have the pleasure to sing modh Rafi’s - you respect the orignality. unless your rafi himself.

    and this new fancy term called “improvisation” that;s been ingraved in your brain lately isn’t a big deal. I’ve personally seen kids who’re 10 years old, “IMPROVISING” !!! there’s more to music than just that ! so get over it already..and go grab yourself a cuppa or something for a change

  75. Harold on November 1st, 2007 6:04 pm

    Is Abhaas 13 or 17 yrs old? In any case I hear all of these ‘experts’ saying that Abhaas has to develop his voice etc etc etc. Man, we must be hearing different things. This little guy sings great. I prefer to hear him sing more that any other contestant. I still do enjo Harshit and Ismit sometimes.

  76. Basit on November 1st, 2007 6:10 pm

    You have gone too far in Toshi-mania zaki,
    I have watched both SRGMP and ASVOI and agree that Toshi is the best in Sufiana singing from the ASVOI crop but Mussarat from SRGMP is even better in that style. Dont take my words, watch his performances of “Sanware”, “Sajna re”, “Tere bin nahin lagda dil mera” and you will feel the difference. Its no offense to your liking but the point I wanna make is don’t impose ur likes with singleminded approach.

    Abhijeet, Jagjit Singh, Khayyam saheb and Parveen Sultana definitely appreciated the singing quality of Toshi but they didn’t say he is the best in the history of Bollywood singing! Come on dear, what r u saying…..

    And putting Toshi with Pundit Sb & Abida Parveen, well its ur modesty…., could have put at no.1. Again you should mention what genre u r talking about? Have u ever heard Mehdi Hasan, the king of ghazal,? Go and listen to his ghazals and you will know what sur, taal and harkaten are all about.

    With due respect I would like to say that lets not jump to conclusions. Toshi, Abhas & Ishmeet are good singers. Let these budding singers prove themselves, let them prove when they sing their own songs and watchout how big hits they make them. Let them sustain their singing quality and then think to make any statements. This is the time to appreciate and encourage these talented singers, not to put them under pressure and not to make silly statements. There is a saying “Excess of everything is bad”, try to be normal and realistic. I am an ardent fan of music, not an expert but this is my humble opinion, no offenses to others.
    God bless u all.

  77. Harold on November 1st, 2007 6:17 pm

    Wouldn’t it be nice if all of them had to sing at least one brand new song each? That would make it a real final.

    I still feel that this final will have a lot of excitement. I am looking forward to it. I am cheering for Abhaas.

  78. TNB on November 1st, 2007 6:34 pm

    having toshi in the final would have been something else harold :S he would have given his ultimate best.

    oh well, lets hope to hear some good music.

    basit, talking about mussarat - he was in a completely different league altogether. check out this clip i happened to find. its just a short performance at the grand finale. not his best but he sure gives “improvising” a whole new definition !!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoEYb2pbpSk

  79. Jimmy on November 1st, 2007 6:36 pm

    Basit - I could not agree more. It is indeed highly surprising that with all of this Toshi-Mania going on, we won’t see him on stage any more. And yes, like many others I too believe that Musarrat sounds like a better singer than Toshi in the Sufiana style.

    Aabhas is the best of the lot. I also choose Ishmeet over Dadi ka Pota. Ishmeet’s voice is original and would suit many songs produced in bollywood.

    And to set the record straight, I don’t hate Toshi, unlike Toshi fans who hate people who love anyone other than Toshi - I think he is a good singer and could sing Sufi songs well. But I also believe that he will have to face stiff competition from singers like Musarrat before he gets successful. Before Toshi fans, get all uncomfortable, may I add that like you all, I too am entitied to have my own view.

  80. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 6:49 pm

    DB

    No one stops you from being dilusional about a contestant. I realy am sick and tired of making the point that reffering a talent show contestant as a legend of music in indian history, or make him above all humans is what we all have problem with.
    Toshi is a good singer but not to the level that other contestants are nothing compare to him. Quite frankly, Abhaas, Harshit , Irfan have way better voice then him, so I repeating again that please relaxed and let us enjoy the music and the show. If you do not like the show , fair enough, quite watching it.

    Read what Shweta says, if he has this much fans , then how come he got eliminated towice, are you realy ignoring that this was the Judges that brought him back, which was unfair in first place. anayways, get on with your life and move on.

  81. Mannu on November 1st, 2007 7:00 pm

    In this forum, mostly people are shouting for Toshi but action speaks louder than the words, same thing applies here, whatever the reason is, Harshit and Ishmeet have more fans than Toshi that’s why they are the only real contestants left in the contest. I do not want to count Abhaas because he was already eliminated. Wildcard/ Veto was bullshit and absolutely not fair to the remaining contestant, Irfan and Abhilasha are already the victim of that. As far as public liking is concerned, it’s very loud and clear that they have so far liked Harshit and Ishmeet more than Toshi.because they (Harshit and Ishmeet) have beaten Toshi twice. Even Abhilasha, Priyani, Mirande, Sumitra, Abhaas and Irfan beat Toshi in voting and as a result Toshi was voted out at number 9.

    For me here is the list of 12 contestants.

    1. Harshit or Ishmeet
    2. Harshit or Ishmeet
    3. Irfan
    4. Abhilasha
    5. Abhaas
    6. Sumitra
    7. Mirande
    8. Priyani
    9. Toshi
    10. Ashpreet
    11. Prantik
    12. Prantika

  82. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 7:10 pm

    Hey TNB ;), Harold…Basit….Masoud Safi…and Jimmy! Its always a pleasure reading you guys! Enjoy the comments :P
    Have a great weekend guys!

  83. Harold on November 1st, 2007 7:12 pm

    Shweta, its not the wknd yet. Tell me that tomorrow.

    How’s it been?

  84. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 7:15 pm

    Great yaa Harold….:P had a good day! How was urs? U home?

  85. Harold on November 1st, 2007 7:20 pm

    Ya. Gotta go out for about 1 hr, but will be back. I am stocking up on snacks and drinks, for the upcoming shows. My friends from work will literally be crowding my house. It will be a blast.

    You know what though, all of them talk only of hearing Abhaas - regardless of the variety in their ages.

  86. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 7:22 pm

    Cool ya! Why arent u online on msn? I will be gone this weekend, so will watch the shows on Monday. Going to Dallas for the weekend. :) Cant miss this episode of VoI on Friday! ;)

  87. Al on November 1st, 2007 7:29 pm

    I have been following VOI for some time and have been reading the comments here. It is very interesting to see that how strongly people feel about Toshi.

    That is very insightful. To me it appears that there are two general broad facets that come out
    1. People either like him or dislike him to the extreme. Feeling are strong on either side, though by and large people have very high regard and respect for his capabilities and potential.

    2. Toshi is one who is talked about the most.

    Which I think speaks to that there is something about toshi that is uncommon not run of the mill

    For me having heard him and others and followed the progress of the program, I do believe he is definitely in the Top and out there and if he is leaving today it is a travesty.

    I would be remiss if I did not congratulate J on the excellent work he has done with this website and the upkeep. Thank you J for your efforts.

    Al

  88. TNB on November 1st, 2007 7:49 pm

    hey hey sweets, its always nice to get some feedback and some cheeky comments from u too :P

    Just another day until the weekend :) can’t wait for tomorrow’s show..yay ! I keep updated with saregamapa little champs..these kids blow me away, some of them are a born miracle..have fun in dallas, be good ;)

  89. Harold on November 1st, 2007 8:24 pm

    Shweta: I will set up shop on MSN this wknd. I am a Sloooww typist. How about that address? Hey someone tell me something…
    If we often know during the week who is getting voted out, how come the person is always so surprised when it is announced. I don’t think they are pretending.

    I know they all stay together in a house, but they are not sheltered. They go out etc. How come they don’t know by Friday? Is the show actually held earlier than Fri?

  90. TNB on November 1st, 2007 9:01 pm

    yes harold, the show is usually recorded a few days before its aired

  91. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 9:08 pm

    Plase Harold and TNB, vote for Abhaas on my behalf also! :P

  92. Harold on November 1st, 2007 9:08 pm

    Thanks, Man. That explains it.

  93. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 9:12 pm

    Tomorrows episode is going to be an interestng one! I feel sad for Toshi, but he got his chances! In fact more than Irfaan and Abhilasha…so that shd be consoling to his fans!

  94. Harold on November 1st, 2007 9:17 pm

    Shweta => You can count on it. I was discussing this with someone tonight. When you look at the logical sequence of things, it seems that Abhaas will walk away with 1st prize.

    Also, If they each have to sing 3 different styles of songs , no one can beat Abhaas there.

    I don’t know if Lata is the sole judge as some people suggested. If so, the public bias will be removed (religion, geography etc,) and the scales will tilt in Abhaas’ favor. At least, then, someone knowledgeable will be making decisions.

    Comments, anyone? This was just my speculation.

  95. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 9:25 pm

    Yes, that would make sense! I like this idea of Lata Mangeshkar being the final judge. But I’m sure there would be more judges. I feel Abhaas is better than both Harshit and Ishmeet now. But It also depends on how they perform on the final day! And I am prepared for anything…lol…I realise the results are pretty unexpected in such shows. I have a feeling too that Abhaas wd be the VoI. Well deserving Voi! :P Hope LOTS OF PEOPLE vote for him! :)

  96. nagesh on November 1st, 2007 9:27 pm

    You dont have to win VOI to become a great singer or to get recognized. He is already recognized by many people and this will help him launch his career if he chooses to do so. VOI only helped him get exposure to India and Indians around the world.

  97. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 9:29 pm

    Yes Nagesh, I agreee, but winning the VoI title wd be like a cherry on the cake! heheh! :P

  98. Shweta on November 1st, 2007 9:31 pm

    And the Icing on the Chocolate Sundae!!! lol!

    ;)

  99. Harold on November 1st, 2007 9:32 pm

    Nagesh, I get your point, but Shweta is right. It gives a sense of accomplishment. Lets all keep our fingers crossed.

  100. TNB on November 1st, 2007 9:57 pm

    I’d be shocked to my very core if abhaas takes it away..in a good way :) my gut feeling says, harshit or ishmeet will win. Several reasons. First, harshit’s voice quality is very generic, i.e. every tom-dick-harry can relate to it. i dont, cuz he’s a copy, and that a big insult to the living singer (kumar sanu). anyhow, he’s also suro ka badhsha according to many people, and i’d have to agree, very stable..but that dosen’t make him any better than our little master ;) in my opnion. Second, if voting is part of the finals, than sardar ji (ishmeet) also has a bright chance.
    I dont think abhaas has enough public support. and i kind of like that..he attracts only a certain type of audience who’re skeptical when it comes to music. and that’s Quality..dosen’t that always count more than quantity..Ironic isn’t it !

  101. Masoud Safi on November 1st, 2007 10:13 pm

    Hi Shewta , how are you doing, Sorry again It seems that you are gone already, and I am replying to you late, anyways, I am glad that the tone of the coversation has changed a bit. so I am asking you , Harold, TNB,Jimmy …etc to keep commenting here, I realy do anjoy your great comments.

    Shweta enjoy your weekend,Oh I can not wait to be finished school and go some where to relax.

    well , you will be missed in the after show comments here for sure. but keep all yoru energy and thoughts saved, because I am sure after this show there is going to be another battle ground here, if you know what I am talking about???//

    Regards

  102. Raji on November 1st, 2007 10:23 pm

    Hey, all u avid Abhaas fans’ out there!
    As usual, there will be a repeat telecast of 26th and 27th October episodes in Star Plus starting 4.30 p.m. (Indian time).
    Enjoy listening to the master-blaster once more all over again!

  103. Raji on November 1st, 2007 10:27 pm

    A CORRECTION!
    In my excitement to inform you all, I forgot to add an important point……….the show will be re-telecast today (Friday).

    Hey, all u avid Abhaas fans’ out there!
    As usual, there will be a repeat telecast of 26th and 27th October episodes today (Friday) in Star Plus starting 4.30 p.m. (Indian time).
    Enjoy listening to the master-blaster once more all over again!

  104. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 10:42 pm

    DOES A GOOD PERFORMER NECESSARILY MAKE A GOOD JUDGE?

    Friends,

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Lataji may not make as good a judge as we all think. Yes, she is a brilliant singer and a “doer”, “implementor”.

    A composer gives her a peice of music and she lends her golden voice to it and creates magic!

    I am not so sure that she is a good analyst as a judge has to be.

    I hope that her brother Hridaynath Mangeshkar is with her as a co-judge. For those that dont know, he is a brilliant music composer.

    I dont believe that any talent hunt show should have just one judge and I hope that it is a combination of three. With a music composer in there.

    Whilst there may be some exceptions to this, but generally music directors are more knowledgable about music than singers and hence make better judges.

    Obvioulsy the perfect judge would be the one who sings and composes his tunes regularly. I would have been happier with a panel that consisted:

    1: A R Rahman;

    2: Shankar Mahadevan;

    3: Ustad Zakir Hussain;

    4: Lata Mangeshkar;

    5: Hans Raj Hans

    I hope that Lata Mangeshkar is not the sole judge and I hope that even if she is she proves me wrong!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  105. TNB on November 1st, 2007 10:55 pm

    Good morning Zaki ! i never thought i would ever say this - u hit bulls-eye my friend..you’ve just spoken my mind..

    lata mangeshkar is the Zenith of music. Not that she isn’t a good enough judge. someone who’s sung more than fifty thousands songs is not some “random person from the street”. But i do agree that there her judgement could be biased and that is not fair when it comes to deciding someone’s career.

    I hope there will be a panel of judges. Or public voting format (which isn;t reliable either, but atleast consistent with the show)

    cheers !

  106. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 11:00 pm

    Shweta,

    Whilst I agree that Abhas is the best of the remaining 3 contestants and if we go by singing and we have a fair contest, he should win.

    I also agree that we should not have had a Wild Card re-entry and that Irfan and Abhilasha were treated unfairly.

    But the fact remains that Abhas has actually got three chances.

    Abhas was eliminated, entered the wild-card and on the day we have to admit, did not perform well in front of the esteemed panel of judges. On his performance on the day he was not short-listed for re-entry.

    Going against the judgement of a senior panel of judges Jatin Pandit used his veto vote to get Abhas in. This was not only unfair to other contestants like Irfan and Abhilasha, but a slap in the face of the invited senior judges who judged the wild-card round contestants.

    Despite that above facts, my head hopes that he wins, but my heart is not really in the contest any more!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  107. Zaki on November 1st, 2007 11:04 pm

    TNB,

    G’Day Mate.

    Its gud to know that we agree on something!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  108. ds on November 1st, 2007 11:16 pm

    It’s a pity that Abhaas did not have any public support since the beginning. He always lived with the constant fear of being voted out, and it showed on his face — time after time.

    However, I have noticed that Abhaas has given spectacular performances especially after the after the elimination round. He just seemed to come into his element.

    People have started appreciating and rooting for him too. But it may well not be enough. It looks like he needs the votes of an entire state or more to see him through.

  109. TNB on November 1st, 2007 11:16 pm

    likewise zaki, but just when i’d thought that you’ve turned into a sane person, u proved me wrong :P

    lets see, imagine for a second that toshi was still in this contest, and goes on to win..would u say “all the above” for him too ?? I doubt it ! and fairness is the last thing u should talk about when it comes to “reality” shows..there’s anything but that..what you see from your own eyes sometimes is far from reality, let alone the media !

    Nevermind, lets anjoy the show. honestly, i’m not as excited as i would have been if toshi had qualified for the finals, what a bummer !

  110. ali on November 2nd, 2007 2:12 am

    Zaki we are 100% are with u on this we LOVE TOSHI unstoppable the best the trend setter the best inexplicable…lost for words

  111. Zaki on November 2nd, 2007 2:30 am

    BEST ONE WEEK,WORST THE NEXT?

    I fail to understand how the voting system works? Toshi who has never been in CHAKRAVAT since his return and had the max votes last week gets the lowest votes this week?

    Harshit who has been in Chakravat virtually every week since the last three weeks ends up getting highest votes this week?

    It is possible that Harshit performed better last week and Toshi the worst - that is possibly the logical explanation.

    Would it not therefore be fair to have cumulative votes over all weeks since the Bemisaal Barah started. That way we also know who the most consistent performer is over a period of time?

    But then logic has never been great forte of SVOI…

    Cheers
    Zaki

  112. PR on November 2nd, 2007 2:31 am

    To the highly opinionated Zaki,

    For your information Lata Mangeshkar has composed music for a lot of Marathi films under a pseudonym. She has even composed some hindi songs with other music directors although she has not been credited for it.

  113. Faraz on November 2nd, 2007 2:58 am

    I want to see a voice of india “Mr.Toushi” he is bond artist,n he is a very Hard worker,Engergetic Artist,He is mind blowling…… ,n I wish Toushi make a voice of india.

    Thanks

  114. muzaffar on November 2nd, 2007 5:11 am

    i am muzaffar from pakistan,toshi is a vary good singer, he the next voice of india. i like toshi singer because of tushi is a vary good singer. its voice is very briliant. mu all vote for mr toshi

    thanks

    muzaffar ali

  115. surasree basu on November 2nd, 2007 5:56 am

    hi Masoud Safi,
    one thing i am telling u today that u are a bloody moron who dont know what is the meaning of singing. u are just a idiot who just follow his heart and lives in a world of dream and u think that har-shit or shall i say bull shit is the best singer. and the last but not the least u don’t have any heart bcoz if u had it toshi’s singing would have touched it.
    ok moron. plz come back to the reality with a heart so that u can realize who is the better singer.i know that toshi’s is going to be eliminated today this doesn’t means that this the end of toshi’s singing career this means this stage of voi is too small for a great performer like toshi.and very soon he is going to be the god father of indian film industry

  116. AS on November 2nd, 2007 8:09 am

    Hey ppl

    I read in a local newspaper that VOI final is going to be held on Nov 24th. Wonder how are they planning to drag this show without substance until then…or are we in for another surprise?

    Toshi may be out of VOI (if this news is true) but I think he should be given a special award …and this award should be of much more importance than the VOI title. Reminds me of Khayyam’s comments on his performance during WC which was something to the effect “Sangeet ilm hai…yeah kisi ne seekha hai…aur kisi ne sikhaya hai…ise judge karne ka adhikar aam janata ka nahin hona chahiye”.

    You can not expect much logic from a show where all the stake holders seems to crying so helplessly within the confines of their own baseless rules and still stick to it!!! But he (indirectly) forced them to reach a tipping point and hence bring some sanity in the rules for once! [pointer : Wild Card round, when music maestros chose the contestants]. I don’t think any other contestant could have done that!

    Cheers,
    AS

  117. Zaki on November 2nd, 2007 8:35 am

    Dear AS,

    Despite all the shortcomings of SVOI, I am gratefel for one thing. This overrides everything else…

    They have given us TOSHI!

    Cheers
    Zaki

  118. Zaki on November 2nd, 2007 8:41 am

    AS,

    Should have said above…

    sooner than we would have otherwise heard him.

    Cheers
    Zaki

  119. Shamim on November 2nd, 2007 10:50 am

    Dear Jugge & viewer,
    My first comment about judges exeptAbhijeet and Adesh I hate all judges in this show and 100% i m sure Irfan elimination was not a decision of Judges its a Decision of Two Judges Alka and Lalit Pandit I was loved both judges before watched last friday episode after this episode I hate these guys my bottom of heart they only prefer two persons (Abhas and Harshit)being a viewer I say Irfans last Performance was excellent but in the time of elimination they were(Jatin and Alka) only support Harshit becoz his blind grand ma,its not fair it totally cheating, Its my they (Jatin and Alka )must be terminate Toshi coming episode, they are not judges they r great politicion I again say I hate both judges(Jatin and Alka my bottom of heart, Abhas is good singer but he doesnot deserved “ASVOI” he is over confident but Jatin and Alka support him very much bcoz they r not judges they r politician, Abhas is not better than Irfan and Toshi is only one the ELIGIBLE singer of “ASOVI” Its my openion Toshi’s voice is “voice of India” Harshit is a very good singer and his voice is a play back singer voice but he is not better than Toshi, Harshit always adopt Kumar Sanu (always he copied Kumar Sanu)he has not own voice, but its really grate socked judges r appriciate him,i hate these judges appriciation. I hope, after read my mail if Alka and Jatin have left this programe it means they r respectable otherwise all viewers know well they r great Unjustice judges and dirty politician. Adesh ji and Abhijeet ji (both r grate and very good judges I saliot them and always pray 4 Adesh and Abhijeet and our favourite participents “Toshi and Sada pa jee “Ishmeet” both guys r finalist and SVOI.

    Thanks,

    Shamim

  120. rossi on November 2nd, 2007 10:59 am

    hey AS

    did u add me in google?…if u have google talk then first add zaki…and then have my ID from him…me and zaki have already chatted.

    @ALL

    i saw TOSHI’s elimination on a news channel…he had a msg for all his fans….

    ALL MY FANS DONT BE UPSET, I’LL BE BACK WITH MY SONGS AND NAGME VERY VERY SOON.

    so yaaro dil tham kar wait karo…he’s coming back in the industry.

    TAKE CARE

  121. surasree basu on November 2nd, 2007 11:02 am

    is that news right that toshi is going to be eliminated today????????????

  122. Shamim on November 2nd, 2007 11:12 am

    Dear JJ,

    Especially Alka and Jatin ji kindly leave this post u r not eligible of this program, The day of first “Alka Yagnik” is grate enemy of Girl specially Priyani” ALka always jelious with Good Female voice” kindly pls pls pls leave u both (Alka and Jatin), u r not judges u r politicion….” Ishmit will be ASVOI” or “Toshi” but other two guys Abhas and Harshit both r not “ASVOI” they r “SVOJ”(Supporting Voice of Judges) hey jelious Judges Alka and Jatin pls Be Off” its not mine openion its a openion of all ASVOI’s viewers, pls “BE OFF”

    Shamim

  123. Zaki on November 2nd, 2007 11:15 am

    Thanks Rossi.

    Cheers
    Zaki

  124. Desturbed on November 2nd, 2007 1:24 pm

    Hey All. well if anyone thinks he is not, just check out todays performance, i am speechless and i think everybody with Normal Hearing power should be, I swear “Lagan Lagi” never sounded so good, the crowd have never been wild. Atlast even the judges called him the voice of the world. Damn Hats off to you TOSHI.

  125. Shweta on November 2nd, 2007 1:41 pm

    Toshi and Abhaas and Irfaan were the 3 deserving contestants to b in the finals!

  126. Shweta on November 2nd, 2007 2:10 pm

    Can anyone confirm todays results???????

  127. Zaki on November 2nd, 2007 2:32 pm

    Dear Friends,

    It has been wonderful exchanging views with you.

    Good luck and best wishes to those whose favourite contestants are still in there. May the most deserving one win.

    Good Bye,
    Zaki

  128. Shastri on November 2nd, 2007 2:51 pm

    IRFAN FANS:
    Irfan successfully finished recording his song. Pritam feels he has a long future.

    Also, he is off to Sri Lanka for a concert. Visit my blog for details:
    http://voiceofheavens.blogspot.com/

    Like Zaki, even I am moving on now. Irfan is settled and doing well, he does not need a fan like me anymore!

    I need to move on, so I am. Its been wonderful interacting with all of you.

    Special Mentions: Zaki, I so wish we could meet some day. And I hope you wouldn’t me mailing you ocassionally.
    J: Of course, for giving us this platform!

    Fatima, Shweta: For being Irfan fans.
    Rossi: For the pics.

    Goodbye,
    Shastri

  129. rohan on November 2nd, 2007 2:56 pm

    the game is over.. aaj Toshi eliminate nahi huwa
    balke woh voice of world ban gaya aur voi aaj khatam hogaya it was the last show of voi

  130. rossi on November 2nd, 2007 3:07 pm

    hey Di u r changed yaar…do u really think that TOSHI was good?…i cant believe…anti TOSHIs r supporting TOSHI…good good.

  131. rossi on November 2nd, 2007 3:13 pm

    shastri

    take care dear
    irfan and toshi will be great singers of india

  132. maverick on November 2nd, 2007 3:14 pm

    1st song of toshi in VOI piya re (nusrat khn shb ) also last ‘Mera pia ghar aya” (again song of khn shb)

    1 more thing
    IN WHOLE SHOW 3 singers have a voice compaible for play back singing
    IRFAN ,HARSHIT ,ISHMEET

    TOSHI is a singer of stage who can sings classical , who can sing pop and who can make the audience rock with him,, he is a more a stage singer than a play back 1.
    toshi is too good
    ooo toshi ji 2 bikes da kee kro gay
    ha ha
    best of luck jigarzz toshi

  133. maverick on November 2nd, 2007 3:21 pm

    hiiz
    so Toshi is again out of scene

    let me tell u y

    1st i wanna say >>> k jab BE-MISAAL 12 start hoa tha to i said k agni & prithvi groups main divide nahe honay chaheye participants bcz may b start main to shugal rahay laikin end pay bht ziada biastness + conspiracy ho jae gi,,, no 1 believed at that time but u can see now

    oor jo bat ab kahoon ga usko b ap log nahe mano gay
    ok i say

    u see .. Harshit >>> he sings few songs of kumar sanu and kishor kumar and after that he says that he is a big fan of these two legendary singers
    also ahbaas … he sings songs of Rafee shb >> and after that he admires Rafee shb on stage

    but wat

    Toshi does

    he sang i think 7 songs +1 qawwali of Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan Shb but he never never and never praised him on stage ,,,1 dafa bhi khan shb ka naam nahi lia
    he sang beautifully all those ,, but he should b saying every now and then tat he is a fan of Nusrat shb (as the whole sabri family has gr8 respect for khn shb). his very 1st performance Piya re ABHIJEET (beautifull singer)quoted the most foolish statemen of his whole life bay saying” tum ne original say bhi acha gaya”
    toshi must have correct him with due respect

    i also love Toshi’s singing hv downloaded many of his songs, but if some one from Rajhistan read this ,,plz tel TOSHI that a guy from Lahore says tat u sings nusrat khan shb beautifully BUT U MUST GIVE HIM RESPECT OF STAGE AND ON STAGE AS WELL
    if u dont give ur ideal teacher whom u take inspiration and whose songs u resings
    u are not a winner even if success bows before u

    so in my thoughts tat was the reason of Toshi’s down fall in the show

    best of luck to him
    in future
    he will be called by music directors and film makers just like irfan
    definately

  134. maverick on November 2nd, 2007 3:22 pm

    also 1st song of toshi in VOI piya re (nusrat khn shb ) also last ‘Mera pia ghar aya” (again song of khn shb)

    1 more thing
    IN WHOLE SHOW 3 singers have a voice compaible for play back singing
    IRFAN ,HARSHIT ,ISHMEET

    TOSHI is a singer of stage who can sings classical , who can sing pop and who can make the audience rock with him,, he is a more a stage singer than a play back 1.
    toshi is too good
    ooo toshi ji 2 bikes da kee kro gay
    ha ha
    best of luck jigarzz toshi

  135. rossi on November 2nd, 2007 3:29 pm

    well, so there is a GAME goin on…well said by Adesh…im happy that Toshi is out of this guilty…real talent doent deserve this kinda treatment.

    Avaas is a far better singer than Harshit…but he is gonna be a victim too.

    And about HARSHIT…sorry to say but he cant even pronounce the SA of saregamapa well…its a shame.

    TAKE CARE

  136. Shweta on November 2nd, 2007 3:46 pm

    Hey Rossi Bhai,

    I was never a Toshi-hater or “against” Toshi..I have always admired his singing…..but I certainly dont agree that he is the best. I liked his some performances and he was one of the best of all the contestants along wt Abhaas, Irfaan and Abhilasha. I was “anti” people who bring religion in between Toshi’s voting and eliminations and also who “fight” with people whose favourites are other contestants. I believe we should be respectful to everyone’s choice and opinion. :)
    How r ya btw Rossi? I didnt see ya online on Yahoo in the morning! How was college?

  137. ameera on November 2nd, 2007 4:36 pm

    i m so sad about toshi eliminataion but i m 2 happy 4 her is ny tarqi hasil ki aha great job.toshi n irfan best of luck acha hua ap dono jhutay judjes sy bach gay.

  138. rossi on November 2nd, 2007 4:52 pm

    well DI…uni was good…i was a lil bz

  139. sameer on November 2nd, 2007 5:10 pm

    i think toshi was the best of the lot he sang nusrat very well there no doubt tht religion was involved in his elimination but in the future he will be a great singer
    it was first time in a reality show tht such a polished talent came thru

  140. Admin on November 2nd, 2007 5:26 pm

    Great Post. Good effort by the person who maintains this website. I added the link to the article above from my post at http://www.cybermusings.com

    Very disappointed on Toshi’s elimination, no matter what the factors behind it are.

  141. Shweta on November 2nd, 2007 6:30 pm

    I am still watching SVOI’s todays episode and I just finished watching Toshi’s performance and all I ca say is…WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a WOWER!!! Awesome performance! !!! Too Good! Abhaas and Harshit were also VERY VERY Good! Rocking Peformances! Loved todays episode!

  142. Masoud Safi on November 2nd, 2007 6:35 pm

    Susane….. your comments is a proof that you are suffering from pschological problems. I would suggest go check with a doctor/psychologist. I have never disrespected Toshi’s fans or any other contestants fans,despite I decided not to reply your pethatic comment about my personality or my openion,however,I thought maybe should make some points clear here:

    1. Toshi is just a contestant , I am not going to even call him a singer any more( this is because of your stupidity),You have every right to love him, worship him or think of him as your God, but you have not right to tell me that I should be doing the same thing.

    2. I do not need to be and expert to love music, as I have made it very clear that unlike you, I am ordinary person , with normal physiological and psychologial development approperiate to my age, and I only listen to the music to enjoy. I have my own preferences whom I would like to listen to or whome I would not, there is no need idiots like you to tell me that.
    3. A normal person with normal emotions would be doing the same thing as I am doing , which is listen to the voice that touches our heart and draws our emotions with it as well. since you are a obnormal person , you would not know what i mean by this.

    lastly, I do not expect morans like you to accept what I just said,since your ID part of your personality is more powerfull then the superego . but I just feel sorry for Toshi with having this kinds of maniac fan.

    anyone’s comment about whether or not it is accepable here to comment on some ones personality would be welcomed.

  143. Shweta on November 2nd, 2007 6:38 pm

    Mausoud Safi,

    Hey! :)
    Its not right to comment on people’s pesonality over here. We are here to discus music..lets just stick to it!

  144. fairy on November 2nd, 2007 6:44 pm

    hi
    im very sad wid toshi elimination
    i read in one of da posts here dat toshi got NFA KHAN contract
    wats dat n is it true
    plz confirm it 4me
    bye

  145. Masoud Safi on November 2nd, 2007 9:07 pm

    Shweta ji.. please read Susare or whatevers comments on me please once. I agree 100% with you non should attack any one just because he or she has a favorite singer other than toshi. I was very reluctant to write the above comment but I had to reply to the nonsese of that person.

    How are things with you otherwise today?

  146. Harold on November 2nd, 2007 11:41 pm

    Hi Masoud Safi, I myself was quite fedup with those Toshi fans. They are the ones who hurt his reputation to begin with. Just ignore them. Their world is crumbling around them and they are bitter.

    Just concentrate on the future my friend. The best is yet to come. I will not criticise Toshi, but I will say his voice was not appealing to me.

    I do have a favourite among the remaining three candidates, but whoever wins I’ll be glad for them. I do like all three, and am glad that Toshi is out.

    I think the people on the show was unprofessional as usual. They had Abhaas and Toshi on stage and asked the audience to shout out who they liked more, although it would not matter at that point.

    Both Abhaas and Toshi deserved more respectful treatment at that tense moment.

    I was surprised at the stats shown on screen about the wide range of support Abhaas was getting. He just might pull off that win and disappoint Harshit and Ismit.

    In any case, I wish them all well.

  147. Masoud Safi on November 2nd, 2007 11:57 pm

    could not be more agree with you Harold. Thanks budd for the great comment.

    Lets enjoy the show and keep commenting on the remaining performances.

    Have a great weekend Harold.

  148. Rovino on November 2nd, 2007 11:58 pm

    Harold,
    Take my words Abbas is done. You can read my views in 2nd nov colunm.Its time to choose Ishmit or Hershit. I don’t care who vote for who. The best is left, Millions fans can’t be wrong. We are sitting in 21st century. This is not the old system. Of course people can change with one wrong remark.
    Best wishes to every body.

  149. Aamir on November 3rd, 2007 12:12 am

    mujhay bahut dukh huwa toshi out ho gaya .. yeh sab judges ker rahay hain voting ka koy chakkar nahi hai sab mili bhagat hai ………

  150. Shweta on November 3rd, 2007 12:24 am

    Hey harold and Masoud Safi….:D
    Touch wood!!!!!!!!!! Abhaas will win! and if not..I like harshit Ishmeet too. Felt sad for Toshi today, but thats the way it is! :P
    I saw the support Abhaas is getting! Its very possible if he manages to get thru one more week. I feel if he reaches final two….Noone can stop him! He will walk away with the title! He needs our support and votes more than ever now. Hope all his fans vote for him!
    Stay blessed guys!
    Best is yet to come! :P

  151. Shweta on November 3rd, 2007 12:34 am

    Rovino…..:P
    Shubh shubh Bolo! :D

  152. Harold on November 3rd, 2007 12:37 am

    Rovino, I’m lost. What are you talking about? It ain’t over ’till its over. Look at all of the twist and turns occuring. In any case I am a loyalist - and I am sticking with Abhaas to the very end of the process.

    I don’t speak hindi etc., can someone tell me when the final will be telecast? I miss a lot of stuff on the show because I speak only English.

  153. Rovino on November 3rd, 2007 12:50 am

    Hi Herold and Shweta,
    Please don’t get upset, face the fact and truth from the fans around the world, they made the decison not just 50 people on this site. This site is not for thoshi or ifran. How come I don,t see too many fans on this site. Just hand ful arguing with each other. Just see how big this world.If you think Abbas is gonna win, I will take all of you guys for beautiful dinner. I do not expect any thing from you guys.

  154. Harold on November 3rd, 2007 1:02 am

    Hi Shweta, let’s hold Rovino to his word about this dinner thing.

    No doubt, less people will be arguing on this site now. Reality has set in for a lot of people. I still am mesmerized by the display of graphs during the show - which showed a wide cross-section of people supporting Abhaas. I hope the final will be based on such a cross-section, and not just a region.

    I will love the final. I won’t miss it for the world. When are the next shows?

  155. Raji on November 3rd, 2007 1:11 am

    Harold,
    I hear that the final is going to be telecast on 24th November. Tomorrow (4th) night, there will be a telecast of a program called Reliance STAR Mahotsav at 10 p.m. on STAR Plus. The three SVOI finalists are performing, probably a Diwali Special.

    I stay in Pune. I had an opportunity to listen to Abhaas in a live concert on the ocassion of the inauguration of the M.G.Road Walking Plaza in September. He was terrific as usual, in fact, he outdid his singing and performance in this live concert than he does on TV. From 9-year old to 90-year olds, they all went bonkers !!! The other performers Sumitra, Abhilasa and Irfan also sang very well. So, all u people out there, you know what to expect when u go to a
    ABHAAS: LIVE-IN-CONCERT

  156. Harold on November 3rd, 2007 1:16 am

    Raji, I am really happy to hear that about Abhaas. And thanks for the heads up about the shows.

    I really would love to write/email Abhaas as soon as I can figure out where to write to.

    If Abhaas decided to have concerts here in Canada I will be the first in line to buy tickets - if Shweta does not beat me to it.

  157. Dennis on November 3rd, 2007 1:25 am

    I am relieved that Toshi is out. He used to sing well initially, but he became over-confident — probably due to the high votes he kept getting. I personally started disliking him because of the hype generated by his over-zealous fans.

    Ishmeet’s song selection was great today — but he should have put more effort into his singing. I wish he sings well tomorrow.

    Abhaas and Harshit are really giving some startling performances of late though.

    It was certainly Harshit’s day. His “Phirta rahoon” was simply amazing. Toshi sang this same song on 18th August, but Harshit’s presentation today is way superior.

    Abhaas was subdued — his fear of being voted off each Friday seemed to show up today too.

    I wish people could vote for Abhaas unreservedly. He deserves to get the highest votes at least once in this competition…

  158. Syed Saqib Barkaat shah on November 3rd, 2007 1:30 am

    Well toshi was my al time favorite i like to tell u people tht becoz of toshi i started like to see VOI when toshi 1st eliminated i see VOI but in very rear time but luckily i got the chance to view WC Entry and surprised becoz the timing of WC was decleared (as i heard) and then i see VOI on regular bases becoz i knew tht if such thing happens toshi will definetly came back on tht platform of VOI and i found tht toshi was doing much better then past time i mean he was doing very well as he did before WC and i was sure shot tht now indian ppl will made him VOI but it is really shoking tht on 2nd Nov episode made him eliminated again this is really big loss of VOI in my view it not a loss of VOI it is a loss of India it is a loss of music becoz in my sight there is no one infront of toshi yes abhaas was a good contander of this contest but not as toshi.well i like to tell u guys tht iam from pakistan but if i ever came to india i will definatily like to meet him it is my dream and if my dream come true i will be very thankfull to GOD and tht will happen becoz 1 day i definetly come to india to see my dada n dadi’s grave.GOOD LUCK TOSHI.I dont know abt india but i Definetly miss u in VOI and now iam not going to view VOI again becoz i know tht now u r not going to come on this platform again i feel so sad for hav been eliminated but i wish u Best Of Luck.
    Saqib

  159. TNB on November 3rd, 2007 1:42 am

    WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT !???? this show is going down after toshi’s elimination. that guy is been a superstar througout. Although he wasn’t my first choice, i always thought he worked wonders. He filled the air with tremendous amount of energy and put the audience in a state of trance (including myself). i’d probably expect toshi to have the biggest fan following, wonder what went wrong.

    Also, what i’ve been noticing lately is lalit and adesh’s hyprocrisy. clearly, they’ve gone bonkers over harshit, maybe because they’ve signed him. So if he ends up winning, it would do great deal of good to them. and seems like the mentors have stopped supporting abaash and toshi. But toshi managed to a brilliant job regardless. what was abhaas upto ??? I was shocked to see his song selection today. he could have done way better than that. It’s almost down to the wire damn it !! you need to give your best and concentrate on u’re strenghts.

  160. Syed Saqib Barkaat shah on November 3rd, 2007 1:47 am

    1 more i like to say pata nahi kyoun aisa lagta hai kyoun yah bhi main ne hi dekha k jab toshi 1st time eliminate huaa tha tab bhi logon k chehray utray huaye thay ab ab bhi waisa hi sama to khair nahi tha lekin chehron pe ghum tha to shsyad main ghalat bhi ho sakta hoon lekin jahan tak mujhe lagta hai toshi HINDUISM ki nazar huaa ek baat aur 2nd Nov k publing voting ka jo graph tha aap logon ko kya lagta hai kya sahi tha meray hisaab se to sarasar ghalat tha toshi jis ko 2dafa highest votes mile VOI se 2dafa bikes le janay wale is banday ko itnay kam vote k woh eliminate hi ho jaaye i dont k yah sahi graphing thi public poll ki well GOD know better rahi baat harshit aur ishmeet ki baat kam se kam in ka to door door tak toshi se koi muqabla hi tha but shayad in main se hi koi VOI banay ga jab meray hisaab se grand finaalay main agar 2 contestants jaaein gay to sirf abhaas aur toshi hi ho saktay thay lekin i think is baar elimination day abhaas pe bhari hoga aur india ko mile woh voice of india jo is k hounor k qabil kam se kam ishmeet or harshit to nahi

  161. aamir on November 3rd, 2007 2:04 am

    toshi is best abhaas and other toshi kay vot abhaas harshit ko day dey ya kon sa joke hay toshi he voice of india hay bake saab baykar hay aamir from pakistan

  162. rossi on November 3rd, 2007 2:33 am

    may I tell u ppl what was wrong??

    there was a aoutomated voting by using softwear by Harshit fans…same kind of voting was done by the supporters of Aneek in SRGMPA…may be thats the reason why people find it very hard to vote last week…the voting server almost hanged for 10 hours…may be thats the reason suddenly Harshit and Ishmeet!! became the highest vote gainer from nutral zone…there r some article posted in startv’s forum with proof of s/w voting…u can even visit there for proof.

    TAKE CARE

  163. Disappointed Fan on November 3rd, 2007 2:47 am

    This show is a bogus show, i was born and raised in the West, and got to view this show through my parents, and was enjoying it until the last two weeks. The most obvious observation is that by pitting states against each other, the state with the highest population will win, consequently the weakest singer (hardly a singer) Har shit makes it through, whereas singers from smaller states can’t. Most other talent shows don’t operate under such a platform, as it is a freaking national talent hunt not state vs state voting. How about people from cities like Hyderabad, Deccan, where the only Urdu speaking population resides in Hyderabad and surrounding cities, while the vast majority of the state doesn’t even speak the language. Perhaps only votes from neutral states should count, also as has been proven from other shows, by having an audience voting system, a Muslim will never win, as most hindus, eventually end up voting for one of their own.

  164. Anand on November 3rd, 2007 3:01 am

    TOSHII IS SUPERB SINGER!!!!!

    I NEVER HEARD SONGS THE WAY HE SINGS!

    YOU ARE EXTRAORDINARYY SINGER!! NOT LIKE ALTU PHALTU PLAYBACK SINGER!

  165. Sara Jai on November 3rd, 2007 3:09 am

    suna tha elections main “jeet” aur “haar” nahi hoti … ya “jeet” hoti hai ya “dhandli”
    VOI is an electoral procedure after all … why should it be any different.

  166. Vinod on November 3rd, 2007 3:13 am

    I am writing this after friday’s episode. It was
    interesting to note that Abhaas enjoys huge
    support amongst various strata of society.
    Taxi-drivers , Panwalas , Housewives and
    Doctors/Professions support him greatly.
    This is what made Harold think that he could
    spring a surprise and win .
    But Harold, did you notice that Ishmeet and Harshit are most popular amongst college students
    ,atleast if we are to believe these opinion-polls
    validity .It has to be carried out extensively
    amongst large no.of people and spread across
    the entire country for it to have any validity.
    However, taking the poll on its face-value,
    the disturbing factor for Abhaas fans like
    myself ,Shweta,Harold and so many others on
    this forum,is that taxi-drivers,panwalas ,housewives,
    doctors/professions are not going to vote
    so extensively .Most of these sections either
    donot have access to computers or would not
    care to cast large no.of votes through land-lines
    or mobiles .In case of doctors/professionals,
    they do have the resources, but then these people
    donot have so much time.

    It is the COLLEGE STUDENTS ,who have the time,
    the resources and the energy to vote extensively
    for their fav.person and if they cast large no.
    of votes through multiple e-mail IDS etc, that
    would be the overwhelming factor.

    Anyway, let us hope and keep fingers crossed !

    For me, it has always been Abhaas and will
    remain so.

  167. usman on November 3rd, 2007 3:30 am

    ur programme is tood good lakin tab tak jab tak irfan aur toshi thyy apkay yeh 2no faislay bohat he zyada ghalt thyy,,my point of view say irfan aur toshi jaisa singer to apkay pass hai he nhe is programme mai.

  168. Asma on November 3rd, 2007 6:23 am

    Toshiiiiii………………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    hes is simply da best singer in da whole Inda.
    hes not the Voice of India.He is VOICE OF WORLD!
    Whenever there would be anything releted to singind there would be 1 name always in everyones mind and that is MOHAMMAD TOSHI SABRI.
    U R DA BEST!!!!!!!

  169. Adnan Gangla on November 3rd, 2007 6:49 am

    Dear All,

    I feel that no one has confidence to sing a song of Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, But Toshi Did very well. He realy impressed me, specially in RAG which is quite diffcult to do.

    I my eyes it was unjustecy with Toshi and all indian people did not listen voice and just sent votes to those peoples who are singing with Copy style.

    I can say with challange to all of Contestent of SVOI to sing a song of Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali khan, I will give my Honda Accoard 2005 model as gift to Top Scorrer. and i presume Toshi Will win.

    Best of luck rest contestent but i have turned my necked from VOI forever. Sorry Shan, Alika, Abhejeet, Adeesh, and others, please accept my appoligize.

    But when ever i will arrange any Big musical program in Karachi, i will call him. Promise

    Regards

    Adnan Gangla
    Karachi.
    +923028259605

  170. gul akhter on November 3rd, 2007 7:56 am

    i think zaki is right.music is not a simple thing to understand. up to listening experience its not sufficient. now days these programmes are like sovi or saregama are not exactly bringing a talent. its a smart way to make money.the sponsors allow the people to vote so that in future. when they launched the album of that singer. they can easily earn lot of money in cheap rates.how smart they are. ok about music i apriciate zaki bhi.i think he knows realy much about music thats why he speak in such a way.
    ok anyway its reality.

    gul akhtar.

  171. DJ on November 3rd, 2007 6:38 pm

    I sort of partly agree with on this matter. Toshi does sing good, but what we should not forget here is that these people are looking for a playback singer under the code name VOI. And nonetheless, every contestant tried to prove the point that they can do good playback, not to forget even Toshi. In terms of playback, the explosive quality that people look for in songs nowadays can be satisfied by Harshit and Irfan. Also the judges who give a decision on VOI are all either playback singers or contemporary music directors who are looking for someone whose voice can be easily rendered to movie songs turning them into instant hits.

    But this SMS voting is a screwed up system. If it was not supposed to work this way, not to forget, Abhilasha was best of the lot from the beginning despite her inconsistency in performance. Check her sense of taal from her audition song, her sense of sur from Aa Jaanejaan, and her harkats in Chalka Chalka and Sooraj Hua Madham.

    If anyone here followed SRGMP, try recalling Musarrat. He was even better than Toshi on every harkat, and taal matching. But even he was voted out quite early.

    In my opinion, Abhilasha was the truly deserving candidate who was voted out after the re-entry mishap of others. And now, since she is also not there, I think Harshit will be winning the competition.

    Sad for Toshi, but its the SMS system. Alas he can’t be brought back again.

  172. Deepak from T.O. on November 4th, 2007 9:41 am

    This message is for clarifying ‘dirtyness’ comments made by sman. When Toshi said he does want to go back to ‘gandagi’ last time he was eliminated, he was NOT referring to his home/jaipur/backgroud. He was referring to Clubs and Dance bars in Mumbai where he has been working for past 2 years. Read up his interviews to media after his elimination and you will find out.

    One thing more, when Manoj Vajpayee made a comment about similar interpretation as sman, on the show, I think TOSHI should have clarified it to him.

    TOSHI is still the BEST!! Looking forward to get entertained by his performances and music.

  173. Deepak from T.O. on November 4th, 2007 9:51 am

    This message is for clarifying ‘dirtyness’ comments made by sman. When Toshi said he does NOT want to go back to ‘gandagi’ last time he was eliminated, he was NOT referring to his home/jaipur/backgroud. He was referring to Clubs and Dance bars in Mumbai where he has been working for past 2 years. Read up his interviews to media after his elimination and you will find out.

    One thing more, when Manoj Vajpayee made a comment about similar interpretation as sman, on the show, I think TOSHI should have clarified it to him.

    TOSHI is the BEST!! Looking forward to get entertained by his performances and music.

  174. Shama on November 4th, 2007 11:15 am

    First of all, thanks Deepak for clarifying the gandagi bit. Some morons made it a big issue without understanding what he was trying to say. Mr. Zaki, hats off to you. Such a beautiful voice deserves lovely fans like us and like you said - everything said and done- VOI gave us TOSHI.
    I have a big favor to ask otherToshi fans. I am part Indian and live abroad. I have always loved music but have never loved it with such passion until I heard Toshi sing. He is out of VOI but will always be in our hearts. Can someone guide me on how I can keep up to date with news about Toshi. AND PLEASE - I AM ASKING COMMENTS FROM TOSHI FANS. CRAP INPUT NOT REQUIRED.

  175. fasieh on November 4th, 2007 11:31 am

    Not being chosen fro the Nobel Peace prize was not Gandhiji’s loss… Well, no comparisons of personalities meant here, but Toshi, you are much above the competition and it is a loss for VOI that you are out and I am sure you have nothing to loose and will go on to reach great heights… Just never compromise on quality and keep up the good work. Also, Shan should stop using the line: “Sachhe Suron ki Jayjaykaar” as it is definitely not the case any more with VOI. It sounds rather like: “SMS ke Rupiyon ki Khankhankaar”

  176. Ishmeet sucks on November 5th, 2007 9:23 am

    now when toshi is gone Harshit deserves the title. Good luck Harshit!!!

  177. aLI RAza on November 5th, 2007 11:38 am

    tOSHI IS bettER THan
    others because…………….
    HE have the ORIGNAL VOICE whiCH no one have IN the contest .noT HARSHIT,ISHMEET OR ABBHAS.I swear Toshi is #1 of all aND ONly he DESERVE THe cROWN OF VOI……….

  178. Karla on November 5th, 2007 2:28 pm

    For all the learned music experts- let me just clarify what works for us ordinary lay people. There are some singers who touch your heart and soul with their singing. Irfan and some of the girls eliminated had this. But no one more than the golden voice of VOI- Toshi. With his elimination VOI has for sure become rubbish (who’s watching!!!!).

  179. Karla on November 5th, 2007 3:15 pm

    One more thing- for those who seem to believe that Toshi cannot sing all kinds of songs, which rock have you been sleeping under while he was singing all those beautiful songs. Acceptable, you can’t digest the fact that there is no one as good as him but please face the truth. And you have the nerve to call us hypocrites.

    LOVE YOU TOSHI. YOU ROCK.

  180. Arif on November 5th, 2007 3:58 pm

    I m habitual listner of music. So many cds i have of warld fame Nusrrat-FAthe ali.I give assurance dat da Toshi will b bigger dan Nusrat-Fathali with in close future.

  181. Janki on November 5th, 2007 5:41 pm

    I’ve also been learning classical music for over 7 years….and after hearing toshi’s first audition performance he bacame my favourite…nawadays we’re loosing ’shashtriya sangeet’ and not many people now have knowledge about it…Toshi is well practiced and could make a song his own even though he never sang the original…its takes talent to do that

  182. baqar ali on November 6th, 2007 8:18 am

    Abbhas is the reality voice of india
    he is world voice of india
    and i vote to abbas
    i hope abbhas will be make as soon voice of india….byyyy take care.all of you….

  183. bilal on November 7th, 2007 12:32 am

    toshi my favrout singer i love u toshi

  184. Najia Sherzad on November 7th, 2007 7:28 am

    Can anybody help me with Toshi’s contact number….

    Thankssssssss alllll

  185. AJB Vinod on November 10th, 2007 1:45 am

    my best singer in VOI is Toshi i always thought he would be VOI but apart from Mr. Abhijeet all other judges are partial i.e talking only about abhaas & harshit it is very dispointing that VOI is a competition singing/performance is important not sentimental/emotions etc. Overall i don’t like the idea of janatha ka votings. if the singers are been judged by the janatha by poll there is not need for the judges sitting there. music greats in wild card round choosed Toshi & other 3 the legends know better than janatha & present judges sitting out there why the legends didn’t choose abhaas & why did so called neutral judge Mr. Jatin choose Abhaas thru his veto power this is merely partiality. and last but not least even ishmit doen’t deserve to be in finals - and overall i’ve stopped watching VOI it is disgusting

  186. AJB Vinod on November 10th, 2007 1:49 am

    Dear Swetha i completely agree with Zaki my sincere advise to you to kindly publish Zaki’s statement in newspapers then the janatha will know what is happening. hence forth an excellent & good singer deserve to win the competition.

  187. Kanwaljit Mangat on November 11th, 2007 2:00 am

    Abaas should be at No:1 , Ishmeet No:2 , Harshad No:3 .
    Kindly try to make the show a reality , there is no place for astrology and Jyotish in performance of Music .

  188. Karla on November 11th, 2007 11:05 am

    Sorry Kanwaljit,

    Forget Jyotish and astrology. Looks like there is no place for real talent also in this program.

  189. sal on November 11th, 2007 4:15 pm

    I am very disappointed at Toshi’s exit.Its a total loss for all hindi music lovers.I really pray hard that he gets a much deserved chance to be a big name in hindi music industry.All you big music company owners, please sign a contract with him,he HAS arrived !

  190. Santanu on November 19th, 2007 8:16 am

    Toshi has been a fantastic singer, and I was sad on both occasions when he was eliminated. However, when
    overzealous fans compare him with Manna Dey or Kumar Gandharva it sounds almost ridiculous. Toshi or any young singer has to go a very long way to achieve what these stalwarts did during their illustrious careers. Again, everyone has their favorites, its not just fair to compare. My favorites are Ghulam Ali, Manna Dey and Md Rafi, not in any particular order. That doesn’t mean I don’t like Lata Mangeshkar. Comparing a budding artiste with any of these names is preposterously premature.

  191. mustafain on November 27th, 2007 7:26 am

    toshi is the best.he is better than any bolly wood singr.ishmeet ishmeetdose not have any shame he is a big jerk and.voi is a commercial bloody show.they do not care about talent like toshi and abhas.toshi will become a great legend in the future.

  192. mustafain on November 27th, 2007 7:27 am

    i sing better than ishmeet iam only 11 years old

  193. Girish on January 11th, 2008 1:11 am

    I am a music lover, a fan of Toshi, but honestly, have no clue about music other than listening. I have heard this comment many times - that Toshi misses a beat, and adjusts later - Can someone explain what that is about? and give me an example from Toshi’s rendition?

    Lol! that may sound stupid, but if I dont ask that I will remain a stupid my entire life with questions in my mind.

    Cheers!

  194. shagufta jahan on May 22nd, 2008 7:48 pm

    Hi Toshi, how r u ,i like ur singing very much, i think u r one of the best singer of VOI , i’m from pakistan, every person in pakistan likes u very much,GOD bless u, bye

  195. shagufta jahan on May 22nd, 2008 7:52 pm

    best of luck 4 jo jita woh super star. bye

  196. Mili on June 11th, 2008 11:54 pm

    Hi

    I m a big fan of toshi can u plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz send me his personal details like contact number date of birth address etc.plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    mili

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